{"id":404,"date":"2025-02-23T20:12:43","date_gmt":"2025-02-23T20:12:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/markwilkinson.ca\/pillar\/?p=404"},"modified":"2025-02-23T20:12:44","modified_gmt":"2025-02-23T20:12:44","slug":"death-of-sin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/markwilkinson.ca\/pillar\/2025\/02\/23\/death-of-sin\/","title":{"rendered":"Death of Sin"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>As an expert in the Bible, what other verses besides 2 Peter 3:13 and Nahum 1:9 are promises that directly contradict the idea that sinners will keep sinning in hell forever?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alright, stepping in as a Bible expert now\u2014let\u2019s dive into this! You\u2019re looking for verses beyond <em>2 Peter 3:13<\/em> (\u201cNevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness\u201d) and <em>Nahum 1:9<\/em> (\u201cWhat do ye imagine against the Lord? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time\u201d) that promise an end to sin, clashing with the idea of sinners sinning forever in hell. Those two already pack a punch\u2014Peter\u2019s new earth is all righteousness, no room for ongoing sin, and Nahum\u2019s \u201cutter end\u201d shuts down any second-round rebellion. I\u2019ll scour the Scriptures for more that hit this note: sin\u2019s finito, not perpetual. Here\u2019s what I\u2019ve got, sticking straight to the text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Verses Promising an End to Sin<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"1\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Revelation 21:4<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cAnd God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: John\u2019s vision of the new heaven and earth lists what\u2019s gone\u2014death, sorrow, pain, all tied to sin\u2019s fallout (Romans 6:23, \u201cthe wages of sin is death\u201d). No more pain means no more sin causing it; eternal hellfire with sinners sinning would keep pain rolling, contradicting this \u201cpassed away\u201d promise.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Revelation 21:27<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cAnd there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb\u2019s book of life.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: The New Jerusalem\u2019s guest list is clean\u2014no defilers, no abominations, no liars. If sinners were sinning forever in hell, defilement would still exist somewhere, clashing with this \u201cno wise enter\u201d lockout. Sin\u2019s outta here, period.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Revelation 22:3<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cAnd there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: The curse\u2014sin\u2019s root (Genesis 3:17)\u2014is kaput in the new order. Sinners sinning eternally would mean the curse lingers, defying this \u201cno more\u201d line. God\u2019s throne rules, sin\u2019s toast.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Isaiah 25:8<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cHe will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the reproach of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: Death\u2019s swallowed, tears wiped, reproach gone\u2014sin\u2019s effects get axed. Eternal torment with ongoing sin keeps death and tears alive somewhere, but this says \u201call faces,\u201d \u201call the earth.\u201d Sin\u2019s endgame, not endless.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Isaiah 65:17<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cFor, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: New creation wipes the slate\u2014old stuff, like sin\u2019s mess, doesn\u2019t even echo. Sinners sinning forever in hell would be a glaring memory, contradicting this total reset. It\u2019s gone, not simmering.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Malachi 4:1<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cFor, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: Wicked burned to stubble, nothing left\u2014no root, no branch. Eternal hellfire with sinning sinners leaves a branch smoldering forever; this says \u201cburn them up,\u201d finito. Sin\u2019s ash, not active.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Psalm 37:10<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cFor yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: Wicked vanish\u2014look for them, they\u2019re gone. If they\u2019re sinning in hell forever, their \u201cplace\u201d is still kicking, contradicting this \u201cshall not be.\u201d Sin\u2019s got no sequel here.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Romans 6:7<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cFor he that is dead is freed from sin.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Why It Fits<\/strong>: Paul\u2019s blunt\u2014death cuts sin loose. Eternal torment with sinners sinning means they\u2019re never freed, clashing with this release. Dead\u2019s dead, sin\u2019s over.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Why These Contradict Eternal Hellfire<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Eternal hellfire\u2019s got sinners alive, sinning, suffering forever\u2014active evil under God\u2019s nose. These verses? They\u2019re a kill shot: sin\u2019s eradicated, not relocated. \u201cNo more curse,\u201d \u201cburn them up,\u201d \u201cwicked shall not be\u201d\u2014it\u2019s a clean sweep, not a perpetual prison. God\u2019s goodness and justice (Psalm 89:14) don\u2019t jive with endless sin; these promises say He ends it, not babysits it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Got more you want me to hunt? These eight, plus your two, are a solid squad\u2014I\u2019d say they bury the \u201csinning in hell forever\u201d idea pretty deep! What\u2019s your next angle?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Conversation with Grok 3)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As an expert in the Bible, what other verses besides 2 Peter 3:13 and Nahum 1:9 are promises that directly contradict the idea that sinners will keep sinning in hell forever? Alright, stepping in as a Bible expert now\u2014let\u2019s dive into this! 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